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		<title>Comment on Obama to support community colleges as a path to middle-class jobs by Dick Bonnet</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dick Bonnet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 13:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We had a local manufacturer who would pay for your community college education in maintenance tech but then refused to hire without 2 years experience, Dumb? The idea of a mentor and summer job will more likely produce the employees they are looking for. And for the record, I think local colleges should be able to do this without Dept of Education and Labor bureauocrats mucking it up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We had a local manufacturer who would pay for your community college education in maintenance tech but then refused to hire without 2 years experience, Dumb? The idea of a mentor and summer job will more likely produce the employees they are looking for. And for the record, I think local colleges should be able to do this without Dept of Education and Labor bureauocrats mucking it up.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Engineers vs liberal arts: Engineering salaries win out but at what cost? by Kuiper</title>
		<link>http://mybarbararay.com/2010/04/12/engineers-vs-liberal-arts-engineering-salaries-win-out-but-at-what-cost/#comment-1167</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kuiper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 15:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;But at what cost? The liberal arts taught you how to think, which we all could use a little more of these days. More thinking, less yelling.&quot;

The irony in this statement is thick enough to slice with a butter knife.  In what way are engineers not taught to &quot;think?&quot;  If anything, it&#039;s engineering curricula more than any other that are geared to force students to think, rather than regurgitate information.  The very core of engineering is the *application* of knowledge.  Synthesizing data to formulate and design a solution...sure sounds like &quot;thinking&quot; to me!  If there&#039;s any &quot;yelling&quot; that&#039;s going on, it&#039;s in fields where the only fruit you have to show for your labor is a pile of words, rather than things like more efficient delivery mechanisms for vaccines, or architecture with better structural integrity.

Moreover, it has been my experience that engineers are more likely to be &quot;renaissance men&quot; than those in the field of liberal arts.  It&#039;s very common for me to see an engineering colleague spend a weekend reading a novel and come back to work the following Monday with a critique of it.  It&#039;s much rarer for my artsy friends put their &quot;creative&quot; endeavors on hold to engage in something like coding.  This is even more apparent if you look at undergraduate populations.  Look in an introductory physics class, and you will be hard-pressed to find any students present who aren&#039;t majoring in STEM fields.  On the other hand, take an intro-level course for philosophy, film, creative writing, etc. and you will probably find at least a handful of engineering students.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But at what cost? The liberal arts taught you how to think, which we all could use a little more of these days. More thinking, less yelling.&#8221;</p>
<p>The irony in this statement is thick enough to slice with a butter knife.  In what way are engineers not taught to &#8220;think?&#8221;  If anything, it&#8217;s engineering curricula more than any other that are geared to force students to think, rather than regurgitate information.  The very core of engineering is the *application* of knowledge.  Synthesizing data to formulate and design a solution&#8230;sure sounds like &#8220;thinking&#8221; to me!  If there&#8217;s any &#8220;yelling&#8221; that&#8217;s going on, it&#8217;s in fields where the only fruit you have to show for your labor is a pile of words, rather than things like more efficient delivery mechanisms for vaccines, or architecture with better structural integrity.</p>
<p>Moreover, it has been my experience that engineers are more likely to be &#8220;renaissance men&#8221; than those in the field of liberal arts.  It&#8217;s very common for me to see an engineering colleague spend a weekend reading a novel and come back to work the following Monday with a critique of it.  It&#8217;s much rarer for my artsy friends put their &#8220;creative&#8221; endeavors on hold to engage in something like coding.  This is even more apparent if you look at undergraduate populations.  Look in an introductory physics class, and you will be hard-pressed to find any students present who aren&#8217;t majoring in STEM fields.  On the other hand, take an intro-level course for philosophy, film, creative writing, etc. and you will probably find at least a handful of engineering students.</p>
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		<title>Comment on About Me by Barbara Ray</title>
		<link>http://mybarbararay.com/about/#comment-1159</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barbara Ray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 19:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Blocked!? WTF :)  Glad you found the site, even though you&#039;ll have to read it at home apparently. Maybe it&#039;s a way to keep you from shirking your duties (kidding). They probably block all blogs!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blocked!? WTF <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Glad you found the site, even though you&#8217;ll have to read it at home apparently. Maybe it&#8217;s a way to keep you from shirking your duties (kidding). They probably block all blogs!</p>
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		<title>Comment on About Me by mrsterrythomas</title>
		<link>http://mybarbararay.com/about/#comment-1158</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mrsterrythomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 18:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey B, it&#039;s my first time on your blog... love it. Unfortunately after reading your &quot;Past Tense&quot; post I tried to click on another but it is blocked at my school... profanity?!?! You?? Must be a bug in our school&#039;s filter system :-) Anyway I still enjoy your writing after all these years (and I still have a copy of your Palau article). Great to see you are doing so well!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey B, it&#8217;s my first time on your blog&#8230; love it. Unfortunately after reading your &#8220;Past Tense&#8221; post I tried to click on another but it is blocked at my school&#8230; profanity?!?! You?? Must be a bug in our school&#8217;s filter system <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Anyway I still enjoy your writing after all these years (and I still have a copy of your Palau article). Great to see you are doing so well!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Past tense by Cory</title>
		<link>http://mybarbararay.com/2012/02/06/past-tense/#comment-1157</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cory]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Barb,

This was a pleasure to read. I have to admit that I got a bit teary-eyed. Although I agree that there are things many people in rural communities are not exposed to and don&#039;t understand about life outside the city limits, you can never question the genuine caring that is present in a small town when someone needs support. It was good to see you and Rex; just not under those circumstances.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barb,</p>
<p>This was a pleasure to read. I have to admit that I got a bit teary-eyed. Although I agree that there are things many people in rural communities are not exposed to and don&#8217;t understand about life outside the city limits, you can never question the genuine caring that is present in a small town when someone needs support. It was good to see you and Rex; just not under those circumstances.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Past tense by Bob</title>
		<link>http://mybarbararay.com/2012/02/06/past-tense/#comment-1156</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We have been fortunate to know him and have many fond memories. All our best to everyone.  Bob]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have been fortunate to know him and have many fond memories. All our best to everyone.  Bob</p>
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		<title>Comment on Past tense by Christopher</title>
		<link>http://mybarbararay.com/2012/02/06/past-tense/#comment-1155</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christopher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Really nice post, those bonds of friends and family really are so important. xo]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really nice post, those bonds of friends and family really are so important. xo</p>
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		<title>Comment on Past tense by Jennifer</title>
		<link>http://mybarbararay.com/2012/02/06/past-tense/#comment-1154</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jennifer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 15:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lovely post, Barb.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lovely post, Barb.</p>
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		<title>Comment on We&#8217;re losing our sense of &#8220;we&#8221; in an iSociety by Sam Davidson</title>
		<link>http://mybarbararay.com/2011/12/19/were-losing-our-sense-of-we-in-an-isociety/#comment-1136</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam Davidson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 22:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just put it up today. Enjoy!

http://samdavidson.net/bringing-back-the-us/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just put it up today. Enjoy!</p>
<p><a href="http://samdavidson.net/bringing-back-the-us/" rel="nofollow">http://samdavidson.net/bringing-back-the-us/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on We&#8217;re losing our sense of &#8220;we&#8221; in an iSociety by Barbara Ray</title>
		<link>http://mybarbararay.com/2011/12/19/were-losing-our-sense-of-we-in-an-isociety/#comment-1132</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barbara Ray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2012 23:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m so glad you enjoyed the post, Sam (sorry for the delay; was on vacation in Argentina). I&#039;d been thinking about that for awhile now, and I&#039;m glad it resonated. Let us all know when your blog post is up. I&#039;ll be sure to check it out. (or maybe it&#039;s up and I missed it?) --B]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so glad you enjoyed the post, Sam (sorry for the delay; was on vacation in Argentina). I&#8217;d been thinking about that for awhile now, and I&#8217;m glad it resonated. Let us all know when your blog post is up. I&#8217;ll be sure to check it out. (or maybe it&#8217;s up and I missed it?) &#8211;B</p>
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